Ghislaine Maxwell says one of the internet’s biggest conspiracy theories is a lie: there was never an “Epstein client list.”
The convicted sex trafficker made the claim in a newly released transcript of a July interview with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. The 300-page document includes her thoughts on Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, and Epstein’s powerful circle of friends.
Trump and Clinton “Never Inappropriate”
Maxwell said she never saw Trump or Clinton behave inappropriately. Of Trump, she said: “In the times I was with him, he was a gentleman in all respects.” She also denied ever seeing Trump in settings tied to Epstein’s alleged abuse.
Trump and Epstein were friendly in the early 2000s but had a falling out in 2004.
Prince Andrew Allegations “Not Conceivable”
Maxwell flatly rejected claims that Prince Andrew had sex with an underage girl at her London home. She called it “mind-blowingly not conceivable” and insisted she never introduced Andrew to Epstein.
She also said a widely circulated photo showing Andrew with Virginia Giuffre, with Maxwell in the background, was fake. Andrew has long disputed the image’s authenticity.
Giuffre accused Andrew of abusing her at 17. He denied it but settled with her in 2022 without admitting guilt. She died earlier this year.
“There Is No List”
Blanche pressed Maxwell about famous names tied to Epstein, including Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Ehud Barak, Kevin Spacey, Naomi Campbell, and Prince Andrew.
Her answer was blunt: “There is no list.”
For years, conspiracy theories have claimed such a list existed and was being covered up. Even some Trump allies once promoted the idea before backtracking.
Hoping for a Pardon
Maxwell is serving 20 years and is appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn her conviction. Her lawyer says they would “welcome” a presidential pardon.
After her interview with Blanche who previously worked as Trump’s lawyer Maxwell was moved from a Florida prison to a low-security facility in Texas. Officials did not explain the transfer.
The White House insists “no leniency is being given or discussed” in her case.
On Epstein’s Death
Epstein died in a New York jail in 2019 while awaiting trial. His death was ruled a suicide, though theories of foul play persist.
Maxwell doesn’t believe he killed himself, but she also dismissed murder claims. “It’s ludicrous,” she said, adding that if someone wanted him dead, “they would’ve had plenty of opportunity when he wasn’t in jail.”
A Complicated Past
Maxwell said she met Epstein in 1991 and later became romantically involved. Even after they broke up, he paid her up to $250,000 a year until 2009. She described their later relationship as “friends with benefits.”
Despite Maxwell’s testimony, questions about Epstein’s network remain. Trump has faced calls even from Republicans to release more details. He once promised transparency but later declared the case closed.
